Where does the disc get put back into play after it touches a wall/curtain/object that is out of bounds?
This happens quite often during indoor play since forcing "wall/curtain" tends to be a popular defensive strategy.
The correct placement of the disc after contact with the wall/curtain/object is wherever the disc went out of bounds (crossed the perimeter line) not where it touched the wall/curtain/object.
Rule
IX.H.1:
To continue play after the disc becomes out-of-bounds, a member of the team gaining possession of the disc must carry it to, and put it into play at, the spot on the playing field proper nearest to where the most recent of the following events occurred:
1. the disc completely crossed the perimeter line;
2. the disc contacted an in-bounds player;
3. the disc contacted a defensive player; or
4. the disc became out-of-bounds due to contact with the out-of-bounds area or a player while any part of the disc was inside the perimeter line.
IX.I:
Events occurring after the disc becomes out-of-bounds do not affect where it is put into play.
Stay tuned for more rules tips next week!
Stay frosty,
Jarrod
This happens quite often during indoor play since forcing "wall/curtain" tends to be a popular defensive strategy.
The correct placement of the disc after contact with the wall/curtain/object is wherever the disc went out of bounds (crossed the perimeter line) not where it touched the wall/curtain/object.
Rule
IX.H.1:
To continue play after the disc becomes out-of-bounds, a member of the team gaining possession of the disc must carry it to, and put it into play at, the spot on the playing field proper nearest to where the most recent of the following events occurred:
1. the disc completely crossed the perimeter line;
2. the disc contacted an in-bounds player;
3. the disc contacted a defensive player; or
4. the disc became out-of-bounds due to contact with the out-of-bounds area or a player while any part of the disc was inside the perimeter line.
IX.I:
Events occurring after the disc becomes out-of-bounds do not affect where it is put into play.
Stay tuned for more rules tips next week!
Stay frosty,
Jarrod
I assume if the disc hits wall/curtain then it is considered out of bounds? In other words, no bouncing the disc for legal plays?
ReplyDeleteCorrect.
ReplyDeleteRule IX.E. A disc becomes out-of-bounds when it first contacts the out-of-bounds area, contacts an out-of-bounds offensive player, or is caught by an out-of-bounds defensive player.
and IX.B. The out-of-bounds area consists of the ground which is not in-bounds and everything in contact (direct or indirect) with it except for players. Any non-players other than observers are considered part of the out-of-bounds area.
So the disc can hit an in-bounds player or observer and is still in play. Anything else and it's out-of-bounds.
This rule can be modified by the captains, for example; hard-court games at the Sasktel Soccer Centre are sometimes played where the walls are live (in-bounds) simply because the court is so small.
Jarrod
We had a discussion the other night about this. There was confusion on where to tap the disc back in after it was thrown out of bounds and then a defensive player touched the disc to ensure it stayed out of bounds further down the field. The way the rules read I believe the disc would be tapped back in still at the point of exit from the playing field. In the past though if a defensive player touched the disc to keep it our of bounds that was chosen as the tap in spot. Which is the correct ruling?
ReplyDeleteSame rule as above
ReplyDeleteIX.H.1:
To continue play after the disc becomes out-of-bounds, a member of the team gaining possession of the disc must carry it to, and put it into play at, the spot on the playing field proper nearest to where the most recent of the following events occurred:
1. the disc completely crossed the perimeter line;
2. the disc contacted an in-bounds player;
3. the disc contacted a defensive player; or
4. the disc became out-of-bounds due to contact with the out-of-bounds area or a player while any part of the disc was inside the perimeter line.
Most recent thing that happened was number 3; contact with a defensive player. That's why you'll sometimes hear players yell "don't touch it" to the deep defensive player if they don't think it has a chance of coming back in, or if they don't think the offense can make a play on it.
Jarrod
Yes, but the final note on the rule is
ReplyDeleteIX.I:
Events occurring after the disc becomes out-of-bounds do not affect where it is put into play.
So from this if the defensive player runs out of bounds to hit the disc so it doesn't come back in bounds, I read this as the disc will go back to the point where it exited the playing field and not where the defensive player touched the disc while they were also out of bounds.
Richard
Because there is a rule that specifically deals with the location of where the disc is brought back into play, it overrules any generic sections.
ReplyDeleteThree examples:
1. Disc is thrown and lands out-of-bounds, and rolls 20 yard further down field.
IX.I. Events occurring after the disc becomes out-of-bounds do not affect where it is put into play.
This means that the roll down field does not affect where it is put into play.
2. Disc is in the air just out-of-bounds, an offensive player jumps from out-of-bounds, and attempts a greatest to keep the disc in play and throws the disc 20 yards up field in the end-zone. IX.I applies. The disc comes in nearest to where the out-of-bounds player touched it, not where it lands.
3. A disc is on a long huck is in the air and is clearly coming back in-bounds. A defensive player runs out-of-bounds, jumps and catches the disc before it comes in. If IX.I were to be used as the only rule, the disc would go back to where it first went left the playing field proper. The defense can certainly block a disc from coming back in bounds, but thanks to IX.H.3 the offense is not penalized field position.
I hope that makes sense!
Jarrod